May 14
I bring my new dog Perdiguero golden dogs three months old today. on the way home? Lanz l? up in the car. Intent? foods in pa? s but it just wouldn 't eat. I just put it in your CAJ? Ny I '? S screaming and scraping! ? I be doing something wrong or I'm not doing something I should be?
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May 15th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
i think youre doing mostly right! when i crate trained my dog it helped when i put music on and made sure he pooped n stuff before i brought him in the car! maybe he’ll like his crate better if u put some tuys and stuff in it! that worked for me…hope it helps!!
May 18th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
your not doing anything wrong,just as a child has to get use to an area so do animals.he’s crying because he is not relax yet in his new surroundings;just talk to him and pet and love him and he’ll be alright.
May 22nd, 2009 at 3:10 am
The crate for hours and see how you like it.
For hours and see how you set in the crate for hours and see how you like it.
From david o
May 25th, 2009 at 8:15 am
Hi,
There will be a settling in period. He has just been taken away from everything that he knows.
Give him lots of love. I hope he has something familiar with him, like a piece of blanket that was in with him and his other puppies and Mum? that’s what we had with our pup.
Some dogs get carsick, I don’t know much about this sorry, mine never did.
Are you putting him in his crate in the day or night? because I would put him in there at night to sleep.
If he cries at night, you will just have to deal with it I think. He will get used to it.
If you feel guilty about it, just make it up in the daytime by playing with him lots and loving him.
In time, he will come to love his crate, it will be his safe space, his santuary. Our dog loves her crate. she chooses to sleep there over anywhere else, unless there is sun outside, she LOVES the sun!
Good luck and puppies aren’t easy, but they are worth the hard times, when you get a loving happy dog at the end of it!
May 28th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
As for the eating, your puppy will, he just needs a little time to get used to everything.
Your puppy will also whine when you begin the crate training process. This is absolutely normal and one thing you want to be sure to do is to not give in to the whimpers and let him out. This will teach him that the whining gets him out of the crate and he will continue to do so.
Our border collie puppy needed to also be let out once or twice thru the nite time, as when that little, she couldn’t hold her little bladder until morning. Be sure you puppy goes potty right before you crate, so that you will know this is not the reason he is whining. When you know it’s not for a potty, you can stick out the whines and he’ll eventually get used to the idea of a crate. It took our puppy about a week to really calm down about it, but each nite she whined for less and less time.
When I did take her out to potty in the nite, that is all she did and then went directly back into her crate. I wanted her to learn that nite time is not social/play time and the only reason for whining to come out would be to go potty.
At about 4 months, our puppy could make it thru the nite without the need to go out (so you don’t have too long) but each dog is different as to when they can acheive this.
Good luck with your puppy!
May 29th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
your doing right. when shes being quiet give her a treat to show her that if shes good shes gets treats.
May 31st, 2009 at 12:04 am
Posted by MadforMAC
Yes, you are doing something wrong. First, don’t put animals in a crate. Second, this is a puppy who is scared to death. How would you feel if a stranger picked you up, drove you in a thing you’ve never been in before and got car sick. Then, as an added bonus, they throw you in a dang box!
Why did you buy this puppy anyway? If I were him, I would’ve poophed on the carpet to show you I would never go in a box again!
June 2nd, 2009 at 7:32 pm
you are not doing anything wrong. when first introducing a crate to any dog they will bark and cry. several suggestions from experience: do not show any interest when he barks. if you get upset with him it will enforce the idea that he will get attention by barking. make the cage like a cave or a den. he will need to feel protected in the crate and in the wild dogs spend most of their time in the den. if he barks or cry try this, get a soda can and put a few pennies in it. every time he barks or cries shake it hard and loud. then he will associate the annoying noise with the barking and eventually not bark. also when you take him out ignore him when he gets excited because you do not want him to feel better about being out than in the crate. please be careful of leaving any type of collar on him in the crate, it can get caught on it or he could try and put his foot in it and strangle himself. also, be careful not to leave toys he can chew up in there due to choking hazards. i leve mine with a few biscuits and rawhide to chew on. goodluck!!! oh, the vomitting is most likely caused by a nervous stomach, my dog is 7 and still does that and worse in the car.
June 4th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Posted by OK_yeah_well_whatever
Yeah, don’t listen to the non-crate people. We have two crate-trained dogs, and they need a place to go that is just theirs, a place they can escape from each other, from us, from scary mail carriers, and from my nieces with sticky fingers!! It is their “cave” and so they should not be fed in it. Make sure the crate is not big enough for him to find a space to go potty and not be laying in it. If the cage is big, put a cardboard box in one end so that he has just enough room to turn around and lie down. Otherwise, he’ll potty in it and that is a really tough habit to break. Dogs instinctively won’t potty in their “cave”, but they will if they have an area where they don’t have to lay in it.
You are doing the right thing, but they do need to get used to it, especially if the breeder didn’t crate. Our Pomeranian whined for the first week or so, but we realized it was a little breezy because his first crate had a lot of ventilation holes in it. We put a blanket over it so that he was out of the breeze and also completely in the dark, and we put a dog-bed from the pet store in it so he was cozy and no more whining at night!
Now, we just say “cage” in the evening or when we’re leaving, and they go in their cages with no trouble at all. My Boston Terrier even comes running to go in her cage when she hears me latching the Pom’s cage, without the verbal command!
June 7th, 2009 at 10:22 am
We rescued a dog who has separation anxiety and was told the following by a trainer. It took me about a week to do (you have to be very patient). You may only need to do the first few steps, since you may not be dealing with separation anxiety … and slowly build up to leaving dog for longer periods of time. ALSO, never use the crate as punishment - this will leave a bad impression with puppy. Sorry for the long answer
1.Ask for “Dog’s Name, Kennel” – treat – let him out (x5)
2.“Dog’s Name, Kennel” – wait 5 seconds (has to be quiet) – treat – wait 5 seconds – treat – wait 5 seconds – let him out (x10)
3.“Dog’s Name, Kennel” – wait 10 seconds – treat – 10 seconds – treat – 10 seconds – let him out (x10)
4.“Dog’s Name, Kennel” – Lock door – 5 seconds – treat – 5 seconds – treat – 5 seconds – out of kennel (x10)
5.“Dog’s Name, Kennel” – Lock door – 10 seconds – treat – 10 seconds – treat – 10 seconds – out of kennel (x10)
6.“Dog’s Name, Kennel” – Lock door – 15 seconds – treat – 15 seconds – treat – 15 seconds – out of kennel (x10)
7.20 seconds (x10)
8.40 seconds (x10)
9.1 minute (x10)
10.2 minutes (x10)
1.Take 3 steps from kennel – treat – take 3 steps from kennel – treat – take 3 steps from kennel – out of kennel (x10)
2.Take 3 steps back – wait 5 seconds – treat – 3 steps back – wait 5 seconds – treat – 3 steps back – wait 5 seconds – out of kennel (x10)
3.3 steps – 10 seconds (x10)
4.3 steps – 30 seconds (x10)
5.3 steps – 1 minute (x10)
6.3 steps – 2 minutes (x10)
1.Stand at doorway – treat – stand at doorway – treat – stand at doorway – let out (x10)
2.Doorway – wait 5 seconds – treat – doorway – wait 5 seconds – treat – doorway – wait 5 seconds – let out (x10)
3.Doorway – 15 seconds (x10)
4.Doorway – 30 seconds (x10)
5.Doorway – 1 minute (x10)
6. (64min) Doorway – 2 minutes (x10)
1.(5 min) Out bedroom door – treat – out bedroom door – treat – out bedroom door – let out (x10)
2.(5 min) Out bedroom door – 5 seconds (x10)
3.(10 min) Out bedroom door – 15 seconds (x10)
4.(15 min) Out bedroom door – 30 seconds (x10)
5.(30 min) Out bedroom door – 1 minute (x10)
6. (64 min) Out bedroom door – 2 minutes (x10)
1.Down hallway, pick up keys – treat – down hallway, pick up keys – treat – down hallway, pick up keys – let out (x10)
2.Down hallway, pick up keys – 5 seconds (x10)
3.Down hallway, pick up keys – 15 seconds (x10)
4.Down hallway, pick up keys – 30 seconds (x10)
5.Down hallway, pick up keys – 1 minute (x10)
6.Down hallway, pick up keys – 2 minutes (x10)
1.Out door – treat – out door – treat – out door – let him out (x10)
2.Out door – 5 seconds (x10)
3.Out door – 15 seconds (x10)
4.Out door – 30 seconds (x10)
5.Out door – 1 minute (x10)
6.Out door – 2 minutes (x10)
1.Get in car – treat – get in car – treat – get in car – let him out (Helper will need to give him treats, since they will be able to tell if he’s barking) (x10)
1.Go outside for 4 minutes (x 1)
2.Go outside for 6 minutes (x1)
3.Go outside for 10 minutes (x1)
4.Go outside for 20 minutes (x1)
5.Go outside for 30 minutes (x1)
1.Vary times at this point – e.g. 2 minutes, 30 minutes, 5 minutes, 10 minutes, 25 minutes, 6 minutes, 40 minutes
1.Go outside for 1 hour
For treats, I used ‘rollover’ which is a dog food - so less fat in it, which is good when using a lot for training.
June 10th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Posted by skooter
I would take him into your vet first thing to make sure he has no health problems that could be the cause of his complaints.
Consider he is not use to being away from his mommy and the other puppy’s. Probably not use to a crate. He may not know why he is complaining but complaining might improve his conditions and then he will learn that complaining works! You don’t want that. LOL
The crate is a very good idea. You can cover the crate. It that does not quite him. A little pounding on top of the crate when he starts making a lot of noice with out any verbal correction from you might help him to be quite. He will think that his noise causes a bad reaction and he needs to be quite. If you speak he will think he is getting your attention and you do not want that.
June 12th, 2009 at 8:56 pm
When I brought my golden home they warned about car sickness. It happens and your puppy will eat when he’s ready. Make sure there is food always available. Right now he’s just trying to get used to everything. He’s kind of shell shocked at the moment and will need time to adjust to his new surroundings.
As for the crate training, my puppy (when he was a puppy) barked and cried also. There is a method to crate training which I learned too late. Rather than just putting him in the crate and leaving him which may leave him feeling like he’s being punished or abandoned it is said to start off slowly. Put him in the crate in an area where you or your family spends a lot of time and he can see you for 10 mins. If he barks or continues to cry ignore him. Only praise him when he is quiet. Do this a few times for the first day or so. Then up grade to 20 mins, still allowing him to see you. Keep doing this until you reach 30 mins and he can remain fairly quiet.
Then you start back at 10 mins but this time do not allow your puppy to see you. Follow the same method as above. Take as much time as needed for this. The crate should be a pleasant space for your puppy and he should feel safe when inside.
Never crate your puppy for longer than he can wait to eliminate, and definitely less than 4 hour intervals during the day. Do not leave food or water inside but a safe chew toy is alright.
June 16th, 2009 at 8:28 am
Posted by Brittany P
Give him sometime to get used to the feeling it is to moving.I know this because my friend got a puppy and on the way home there dog threw up…About the crate thing…maybe put up a fence in your kichen on both sides so he can’t get out..put paper on the floor go outside for an hour and see what he does…if he doesn’t bite or chew anything then you can leave him fenced in your kichen when going out…or you can just leave your dog inthe crate crying(thats sounds mean and hard to do though).
June 18th, 2009 at 2:04 am
My dog hated her crate, but destroyed everything when she wasn’t crated. When she was crated, day or night, if she couldn’t see me she cried and screamed like a banshee.
I visited and wrote to the trainer on that site, Ed Frawley. His response shocked me. He said, leave her in the crate 24/7 until she learns to shut up. He said, she’s afraid of the ghosts in her head, and until she can learn to be secure (by spending a lot of time in the crate unharmed) then she needs to stay in the crate until the whining stops.
Of course Mr. Frawley did not me literally 24/7. I was to take my dog out ON LEASH and have social interaction with her outside the house, but when we were home, or when I was at work, she was crated full time. I kept the crate in my great room during the times I was home, and in the bedroom at night.
It took my crazy seperation anxiety dog about 2 weeks to figure out the crate was not a bad thing. Now (about 2 months later) she crates on command “Gingy crate” and she goes right in.
Also, be sure to feed your dog in the crate. Nothing says I love this place like having it be your dog’s food source.
Lastly, I found a treat (freeze dried liver treats) that my dog loves the most and made that a crate only treat. She only gets a piece of liver if she crates on command. “Gingy crate” and treat.
I highly recommend the Leerburg website for every dog owner. Mr. Frawley has amazing advice and Podcasts to help you be the best owner your dog can have.
On the dog food front, it took Gingy one week of starving herself before she would eat the kibble. She wanted wet food and I wasn’t having it, so she refused to eat the kibble I placed for her. Once again Mr. Frawley suggested that I leave her food down for one 15 minute interval - period. He said, she’ll learn to eat the food that is down, and she’ll learn to eat it on command if she has no choice but to comply with your rules.
Feeding on a regular schedule also allows for you to control when your dog will need to go outside to eliminate.
I own two dogs now, one for about 3 months, and the other for 1.5 months. Each was a rescue dog and came with their own set of mental/disciplinary baggage, but learning to be my dog’s pack leader was the most critical step in earning the respect, and thus the compliance from my animals.
Good luck!
June 18th, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Dogs sometimes take a couple of days to get used to new surroundings. New surroundings will cause them some stress and they don’t eat when they are stressed. But not to worry he will start to eat like a horse in a couple of days. The crate training takes some time but he will get used to it. Make the crate comfortable for him. Put a pillow or blanket in there and a couple of toys and a chewy. Always feed him in the crate. Feeding him in the crate will help in getting him used to going in there on his own. Always use a key word to associate with the crate i.e Kennel, House, Bed. And use the word you choose everytime you feed him and every time you put him to bed at night or anytime he is to go in it.And when he cries or barks DO NOT take him out or he will soon learn that he can use that as a trigger to get you to let him out. After a few minues of crying he will give it up and settle down. Only take him out of the crate once he has settled down for a consistant few minutes, This will teach him that crying and barking is not the way to get out of his crate to play. Remember dogs have a natural instinct to den. Eventually he will start to see the crate as a den and will see it as a comfortable, safe and secure place to be and will grow to love it. Crate training is also the best way to pottie train your new pup. Every time he comes out of the crate take him outside and give the word “Pottie” and he will associate that word ‘pottie” with going directly outside and doing his buisness. Don’t worry about him going in his crate dogs will instinctually not pee or poop where they sleep. Good luck1